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WHY DO AGAKHANIS DO THEIR ACTS SECRETLY

Posted: 01 Sep 2009, 07:22
by ustazhussein
Amazing that even the Arab Ismailies who are in Salamiya, Syria are very secretive in their acts and perfommances of Islamic duties.

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Posted: 02 Sep 2009, 01:04
by abuali
I have no idea.

Are they that secretive?

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Posted: 02 Sep 2009, 13:29
by Muhammad Mahdi
Yes, very secretive. From what I know, they don't allow others in their khanas to see anything.
But shh... don't tell anyone. Sawa?

Re: WHY DO AGAKHANIS DO THEIR ACTS SECRETLY

Posted: 05 Sep 2009, 02:26
by abuali
i have known many shia ismailis and although i have not had much discussion with them about their faith, i never come across any situation which would lead me to think they are secretive.

I am quite sure a lot of their beliefs and practices are known.

Re: WHY DO AGAKHANIS DO THEIR ACTS SECRETLY

Posted: 10 Sep 2009, 07:45
by Ustaz Hussein
But in Howza we are taught that the Shia Ismailies have the aqideh (doctrine) of Batiniyyeh (which is to hid one's real beliefs). The same aqideh was within the Bohra and Druze community.

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Posted: 10 Sep 2009, 09:33
by abuali
oh okay

Is it perhaps hinting at a possible relation with freemasons?

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Posted: 10 Sep 2009, 20:31
by Muhammad Mahdi
Where did masons come from?

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Posted: 10 Sep 2009, 20:39
by abuali
I have read somewhere (dont know the authenticity) that the ismaili sect had been influenced by the Knights Templar (who are the forefathers of the Freemasons, Illuminati etc, all of which being secretive cults) .

Re: WHY DO AGAKHANIS DO THEIR ACTS SECRETLY

Posted: 22 Sep 2009, 07:40
by Ustaz Hussein
Yes, the present Agakhanis and their "boss" are linked with the Masons..... But even there have been reports that the third Agakhan, Sultan Mohammed Shah, though being a British puppet who helped the British Authority to figh the Moslem rebels in India, was also closerly linked with the west's most bitter enemy, Adolph Hitler who used to take pledges from religious leaders for his assault and those religious leaders who sanctified Hitler (maybe forcibly or freely) were:-
1- Moslem leader, Agakhan III, Imam of Shia Ismailia.
2- Christian leader, The Catholic Pope.
and others...
and that ended with murder of many Jews as they assert........

Re: WHY DO AGAKHANIS DO THEIR ACTS SECRETLY

Posted: 22 Sep 2009, 07:44
by Ustaz Hussein
I would be asked......"Hey you revolutionary guy, tell us the proof of this".......

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... trial.html

Re: WHY DO AGAKHANIS DO THEIR ACTS SECRETLY

Posted: 23 Sep 2009, 08:54
by abuali
Ustaz Hussein wrote:Yes, the present Agakhanis and their "boss" are linked with the Masons..... But even there have been reports that the third Agakhan, Sultan Mohammed Shah, though being a British puppet who helped the British Authority to figh the Moslem rebels in India, was also closerly linked with the west's most bitter enemy, Adolph Hitler who used to take pledges from religious leaders for his assault and those religious leaders who sanctified Hitler (maybe forcibly or freely) were:-
1- Moslem leader, Agakhan III, Imam of Shia Ismailia.
2- Christian leader, The Catholic Pope.
and others...
and that ended with murder of many Jews as they assert........
If you watch 'The Arrivals' you will come across several proof linking Hitler, the Pope and the Rothschilds (jewish family that financed hitler to undertake the holocaust)

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Posted: 02 Oct 2009, 14:56
by Ustaz Hussein
The Aga Khan His Higness Karim Shah al-Husseini is on his move to arrange a prayer, Moslem salat for the Shia Ismaili community worldwide and to change the sha-hadah of saying "Imam Ali is Allah" into "Imam Ali is the commander of the faithfulls".

A nice move?

Re: WHY DO AGAKHANIS DO THEIR ACTS SECRETLY

Posted: 07 Oct 2009, 23:55
by abuali
when?

anywhere we can read about it?