Bismillahir-Rahmaanir-Rahim
As Salaamu’ aleykum
I come back with my same resources which I had explained earlier on the whole philosophy behind the rulings of Halaal Music. But this time, with discussing and approving it with our respected scholar,
Sheikh M. Alidina, just a few hours ago at the Masjid after Morning prayers.
As I begin,
Sheikh Alidina strictly said, “
You cannot conclude or give a fatwa based on a single tradition/ Hadith.
You CANNOT conclude something to Haraam or Halaal by just a single tradition/ Hadith. It has a
whole process before it has given its clear meaning”. So, by presenting these traditions/ Hadith against Music (including of Drums),
you are simply raising a big confusion, (
for all of us), as I had explained it earlier.
I Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006
536. Music that is permissible is the music that does not entail entertainment in gatherings held for that purpose. Forbidden music is the music that is suitable for entertainment and amusement gatherings.
537. The expression “the music or the song that is suitable for entertainment and amusement gatherings” does not mean that the music or the song’s tune amuses the heart or changes the mental state because there is nothing wrong in it. The expression actually means that the person listening to the music or the song’s tune —especially if he is an expert in these matters— can distinguish that this tune is used in the entertainment and amusement gatherings or that it is similar to the tunes used therein.
548. Question: Is it permissible to listen to religious songs in praise of Ahlul Bayt (a.s.) that are accompanied with music?
Answer: Songs (al-ghinã’) are harãm absolutely. However, singing praise [of the Prophet or the Ahlul Bayt] that is sung with a good tune but is not in ghinã’ form is without problem.
As for the music, it would be allowed, if it is not suitable for entertainment and amusement gatherings.
Is an authenticated ruling from our respected
Ayatullah Sayyed Ali Sistani; he has mentioned it
very clear for us to understand, and many of our Ulamaas have the same rulings. However,
for your satisfaction,
Sheikh Alidina explains Music to be divided into two categories which are:
1. Music that can fall under Haraam category and
2. Music which falls under Halaal.
1. Music that can fall under Haraam category is the type of Music which is suitable for entertainment and amusement gatherings.
2. Music which falls under Halaal category is the type of Music which does not entail entertainment in gatherings.
According to what I had explained earlier,
In simple words, if you can identify the type of music used in discos, pubs and bars, by the first moment you listen to Music and the first thing that comes to your mind is the same type of music used in those places (discos, pubs and bars), then the music is of a Haraam type and therefore it becomes Haraam for you to listen them.
Using the same method, if you listen to the Music and it doesn’t give you a corrupt feeling in your head, it is then permissible for you to listen.
Sheikh Alidina fully agreed to this and supported my point.
However, I’m talking about observing the Halaal Music and not the Hollywood/ Bollywood type of Music, because they are pretty much obvious to be Haraam.
“
And those who do not give false evidence.” (25:72)
Now let us understand from the other point of view.
Sheikh Alidina said,
1. If for example the Hadiths are
authenticated and prove the prohibition of some instruments; it is
not necessary that the prohibition is a fixed statement. It can be reflecting to a
particular area, or prohibiting on a
certain view or
happening on that particular time.
2. Quoting a
little on it doesn’t explain the
whole tradition/ Hadith. It needs to be
understood the whole situation that took place on that particular time and for what reason and why did the tradition/ Hadith had to be act upon.
3. In simple, just as each Qur’anic verse has different meanings, applies the same, each tradition/ Hadith has different meanings and way of understanding. The only difference is Qur’anic verses have more meanings.
4. Tradition/ Hadith don’t make anything Halaal/ Haraam before taking a whole process which is something
we don’t need to be worried about. It’s our Ulamaas who have been given the
responsibilities to work upon and show us a direction.
5. If you think you can figure out the Haraam/ Halaal rulings by quoting a few traditions/ Hadiths without performing any serious process undertaken, then
you’re smarter than our Ulamaas.
…and it goes on…
My previous points:
Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 Post subject: Very Sensitive
Thank you for providing us with these beautiful ahadiths.
If you study the ancient Islamic History, you will find a lot that you haven’t come across and it’s wide, wide enough to answer all your questions OR to leave you “mad-confused” (and this is the reason we have Scholars for answering to all our questions). They study the History; they go through each and every Hadith and authenticate them by searching the truth from all corners. They use the help of the Holy Qur’an as well and that’s how they give rulings.
I’m not arguing on this subject, nor am I being against with the teachings of our beloved Prophet (s.a.w.w) and Imams (a.s), no, I’m simply trying to explain the other meaning that I understand from these ahadith.
If playing of Drum was completely Haraam, then why is it used in War Songs and Scholars allow it? If Drums are Haraam then why do the Iranis play Drums inside the Haram (where Bibi Masooma Qum (s.a) is located) on some occasions, and no scholar has condemned this act? Are all these scholars going against our beloved Prophet’s (s.a.w.w) and Imam’s (a.s) teachings? Including Ayatullah Sistani, Imam Khomeini (may his soul be blessed), Ayatullah Khamenei and many other scholars? Are these Scholars not aware of these Ahadith?
Music is an art, and there are plenty of instruments made by Muslims… if we study further.
Music can influence you, and it can as well cure. Islam is not a religion of HARAAM! HARAAM! And only HARAAM! No brother, Islam is a beautiful religion with enough freedom given to all its followers (the only difference is how you use it). I or you have no rights to conclude what’s Haraam and what’s Halaal. It is best for us to leave it to our scholars or we study Islam from its depth.
It is best for us to search all these answers from our Scholars and not to confuse ourselves. I strongly request all of you to study furthermore from a Scholar because this has become a very sensitive issue, one wrong statement and it can lead many to a big sin. (And that’s the reason I’ve not been providing a lot of explanation from my point of view, not because it could only be wrong, but because I’m still a first year student in the Hawza). I, therefore recommend you, as I do to myself to study furthermore and come with a better explanation. And as for the time being, I suggest you differentiate between good and evil from the knowledge you have, for yourself.
Thank you.
“Allah (s.w.a) has given us enough knowledge to differentiate between good and evil”
You posted:
Religious songs accompanied by music, halal?
I dont undertstand. Aimmah have made clear that music is HARAAM!
Most nasheeds, qasida with music contain flutes and drums, whch makes them all haraam.
What do you understand from these tradtions? Is music halal?
Aimmah have said it is haraam. They have made it crytsal clear.
The books I quoted were authentic, some of shias most authentic books.
I extracted these traditions from Ayatallh Dastheghaib's Book.
What more can we need to convince us?
Once again, Sayyed Ali Sistani
completely disagrees with you,
OR,
you disagree with him:
535.
Music is an art that has spread far and wide during these days.
Some varieties of this art are permissible while others are forbidden; therefore,
it is permissible to listen to the first while it is forbidden to listen to the latter.
536.
Music that is permissible is the music that does not entail entertainment in gatherings held for that purpose. Forbidden music is the music that is suitable for entertainment and amusement gatherings.
537. The expression “the music or the song that is suitable for entertainment and amusement gatherings” does not mean that the music or the song’s tune amuses the heart or changes the mental state because there is nothing wrong in it. The expression actually means that the person listening to the music or the song’s tune —especially if he is an expert in these matters— can distinguish that this tune is used in the entertainment and amusement gatherings or that it is similar to the tunes used therein.
538.
It is permissible to visit places where halãl music is being played, and it is permissible to listen to it as long as it is halãl.
Permissible music is the music that is not suitable for such gatherings, even if it does not soothe the nerves like the martial music and that played at funerals.
Answer: Songs (al-ghinã’) are harãm absolutely. However, singing praise [of the Prophet or the Ahlul Bayt] that is sung with a good tune but is not in ghinã’ form is
without problem.
As for the music,
it would be allowed, if it is not suitable for entertainment and amusement gatherings.
552. Question:
Is it permissible to listen to revolutionary songs accompanied by sounds of piano, lute, drum, wind-pipe, and electronic piano?
Answer:
If the music accompanying it is that which is suitable for entertainment and amusement gatherings, it is not permissible to listen to it. (Otherwise?)
562. Question: Is it permissible for a wife to dance for her husband with music or without music?
Answer: It is allowed as long as dancing is not accompanied with harãm music.
My following Post:
The use of the drum is allowed on the occasion of a wedding, wedding feast (walimah) and both days of Eid. This is concerning the drum which has no tinkle. The drum which has the tinkle is not permitted to be used.
Some traditions even quote that it is allowed to play drums on the wedding night.
Sheikh Alidina asked me to look upon the rulings allowing of Music on the above occasions. However, it might not be allowed, but it might as well be.
I later then wrote:
Not sure, it is better you find out. I wrote because it's allowed in Iran on these occasions.
Syed Kazim responded:
I think i miised this point, lol!
it being allowed in Iran does NOT make it Halaal
Muhammad Mahdi added:
Very true!
Syed Kazim ended with:
...atleast i have someone supporting me!
I reply to this:
Very true, it being allowed in Iran does
NOT make it Halaal. But …
It does not as well make it Haraam until and unless we have failed to find a relevant ruling from Ayatullah Sistani, which I will be looking up to insha’Allah.
I hope this is fine and clear now. If you STILL have further-more arguement on this subject, I would kindly request you to discuss it with Sheikh Alidina for guidance as soon as possible.
Thank you.
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