- 18 Feb 2005, 17:10
#1570
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Wow! Heavy points out there, so all the pros n cons of zanjeer weighed. Yet still no one came forward in supporting it? Hm..Im kinda surprised.
Well okay, here's a first...I support Zanjeer Fully, atleast the kind of Zanjeer I did, i.e taking normal blade and chains zanjeers and NOT surgical blades or knifes. Anyways, this is a couple of responses of mine to your quieries:
1. Why should we do it?
Well, it is a form of Azadari. To me, it is the most extreme form and most physical form of azadari. Okay, having said that, brings me to my next qn:
2. Why be so physical and agressive and look like extremities (or barbarians) to other religions, when we can just do all the azadri by crying?
Well, its not all that simple! Everyone expresses grief differently. Some people cry and they feel contended to the fact that they have expressed their greif in terms of crying, and so dont resort neccesarily to other forms of Azadari like Severe Matam or Zanjeer.
However, others are unable to express greif in terms of crying (I mean..they just cant get tears out of their eyes!), they feel the pain, but they cant come upto the point of tears. Well to them, they feel that Maybe, if they beat their chests harder then others or do ZANJEER, to THEM it is azadari, they feel contented, a similar contentment that if felt by those who cry.
3. How do we know that Zanjeer/ Extreme Matam is just done for 'Azadari' and not show off?
Well, like i mentioned above, Azadari is on an individual basis. If this is the case, the matter of show-off is also on an individual basis. Eg: One person might go with the intent on doing Azadari interms of Zanjeer, on the other hand another (esp. Young kids) do it to show off, (well most do at least!). At the end of the day, it is done to the person themselves.
4. If so, then should we discourage kids from doing it?
NO! Our imams encourage teaching young kids Islamic rituals even when they are non - baligh or unable to understand. So why not train them with Zanjeer too at this young age, and inshallah, as they grow older, they will realise why they do Zanjeer. However, they should not be forced into doing it! Infact, it is showoff that got me into Zanjeer!! lol
5. If those who are doing as Azadari are not intending to show off, how sure are they that they might not later change their niyyat?
Well, we can never be sure, and that is why we are Humans. In other words, pride or Riyah ( I think!) is very un-noticeable in humans. I have heard my Malim in madressa having narrated to us a Ahadith of the Holy Prophet: ' Riyah (Pride) is like a black ant, crawling on the black stone, in the middle of the night'. So we conclude, it is highly unnoticeable. And so, intensions might change. However, we should pray to Allah, to help stay away from Riyah and keep to the right path.
I hope I have answered a few doubts. Well, I apologize for all the spelling mistakes and typing errors. Please feel free to correct my views!
Wasalaam.
Wow! Heavy points out there, so all the pros n cons of zanjeer weighed. Yet still no one came forward in supporting it? Hm..Im kinda surprised.
Well okay, here's a first...I support Zanjeer Fully, atleast the kind of Zanjeer I did, i.e taking normal blade and chains zanjeers and NOT surgical blades or knifes. Anyways, this is a couple of responses of mine to your quieries:
1. Why should we do it?
Well, it is a form of Azadari. To me, it is the most extreme form and most physical form of azadari. Okay, having said that, brings me to my next qn:
2. Why be so physical and agressive and look like extremities (or barbarians) to other religions, when we can just do all the azadri by crying?
Well, its not all that simple! Everyone expresses grief differently. Some people cry and they feel contended to the fact that they have expressed their greif in terms of crying, and so dont resort neccesarily to other forms of Azadari like Severe Matam or Zanjeer.
However, others are unable to express greif in terms of crying (I mean..they just cant get tears out of their eyes!), they feel the pain, but they cant come upto the point of tears. Well to them, they feel that Maybe, if they beat their chests harder then others or do ZANJEER, to THEM it is azadari, they feel contented, a similar contentment that if felt by those who cry.
3. How do we know that Zanjeer/ Extreme Matam is just done for 'Azadari' and not show off?
Well, like i mentioned above, Azadari is on an individual basis. If this is the case, the matter of show-off is also on an individual basis. Eg: One person might go with the intent on doing Azadari interms of Zanjeer, on the other hand another (esp. Young kids) do it to show off, (well most do at least!). At the end of the day, it is done to the person themselves.
4. If so, then should we discourage kids from doing it?
NO! Our imams encourage teaching young kids Islamic rituals even when they are non - baligh or unable to understand. So why not train them with Zanjeer too at this young age, and inshallah, as they grow older, they will realise why they do Zanjeer. However, they should not be forced into doing it! Infact, it is showoff that got me into Zanjeer!! lol
5. If those who are doing as Azadari are not intending to show off, how sure are they that they might not later change their niyyat?
Well, we can never be sure, and that is why we are Humans. In other words, pride or Riyah ( I think!) is very un-noticeable in humans. I have heard my Malim in madressa having narrated to us a Ahadith of the Holy Prophet: ' Riyah (Pride) is like a black ant, crawling on the black stone, in the middle of the night'. So we conclude, it is highly unnoticeable. And so, intensions might change. However, we should pray to Allah, to help stay away from Riyah and keep to the right path.
I hope I have answered a few doubts. Well, I apologize for all the spelling mistakes and typing errors. Please feel free to correct my views!
Wasalaam.
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