- 27 Jan 2008, 18:00
#11529
سمه تعالى
Assalam alaikum
It is stated in Kitab al-Irshad, by Sheikh al-Mufid (336-413/948-1022)
in the last sentence after giving the account of the children of Imam
Ali ibn Abi Talib (a.s.) in being 27. He then goes on to say:
وفي الشِّيعةِ من يَذكرُ أنّ فاطمةَ صلواتُ الله عليها أسقطَتْ بعدَ
النّبي صلّى الله عليهِ والهِ ولداً ذكَراً كانَ سَمّاه رسولُ اللّهِ
عليهِ السّلامُ - وهوحملُ - مُحَسنَاً فعلى قولِ هذهِ الطّائفةِ أولادً
أميرِ المؤمنينَ عليهِ السّلامُ ثمانيةٌ وعشرونَ ، واللّهُ أعلمُ.
الإرشاد : ج 1 ص 355 ( ط مؤسسة آل البيت لإحياء التراث . سنة 1416 ه .
ق . بيروت لبنان (
My translation:
And from among the Shi'ah [sects] it is said that Fatimah –praises of
Allah be upon her- had a miscarriage of a male child after the Prophet
–praise of Allah be upon him and his progeny- and the Messenger of
Allah –peace be upon him-
According to this school the children of the Commander of the
faithful –peace be upon him- is twenty eight. And Allah knows best.
Dr. I. K. A. Howard's translation [p. 269]
Among the Shi'a, there are those who mention (another) Fatima, the
blessing of God be on her, who was born after the Prophet. They say
that the Apostle of God named her while he was carrying Muhsin.
According to this group there were twenty-eight children of the
Commander of the faithful, the blessing and peace of God be on him.
God knows and judges best.
By reading the Arabic, or [worse] even the English, one might think at
first that Sheikh al-Mufid does not consider Muhsin ibn Ali (a.s.) to
be one of the children of Imam Ali (a.s.), or this view is not
reliable.
Of course, what is implied by Sheikh al-Mufid can only be properly
understood by observing many factors according to the commentaries
given by many scholars. Some even believe this last paragraph was
added and does not exist in other manuscripts of Kitab al-Irshad.
I thought I was having a scientific discussion with someone whom I
assumed to be an educated Zakir, telling him how dangerous it is to
just recite things without having proper knowledge or adequate
qualifications when citing references and historical events, and how
this could result in the misleading of the general public. I told him
this was amanah. I then gave him the example of Kitab al-Irshad which
is widely misinterpreted and even translated wrongly. I said this
issue is something one must not mention in public without giving a
proper justification and must not accuse or betray the narrating of
views of any person or scholar, especially an 'alim of the calibre of
Sheikh al-Mufid.
It is sad to say that only minutes went by and then started the saga
of me denying Muhsin ibn Ali (a.s.), and this continued to lead up to
denying the martyrdom of Seyyedah Fatimah al-Zahra' (a.s.), the door,
etc.
I have nothing further to say in this regard.
Now, You be the judge.
My next email will be about the fabricated fable of Seyyidah Zainab
(a.s.) being in front of Yazid (l.a), covering her face with her hair,
and this is being recited (intentionally or unintentionally) by some
Zakirs who thrive on enticing the emotions of the audience, even if it
means coming up with such stories.
And there is more to come.
Please circulate without adding salt and pepper.
Wassalam
Sh. Zaid Alsalami
Assalam alaikum
It is stated in Kitab al-Irshad, by Sheikh al-Mufid (336-413/948-1022)
in the last sentence after giving the account of the children of Imam
Ali ibn Abi Talib (a.s.) in being 27. He then goes on to say:
وفي الشِّيعةِ من يَذكرُ أنّ فاطمةَ صلواتُ الله عليها أسقطَتْ بعدَ
النّبي صلّى الله عليهِ والهِ ولداً ذكَراً كانَ سَمّاه رسولُ اللّهِ
عليهِ السّلامُ - وهوحملُ - مُحَسنَاً فعلى قولِ هذهِ الطّائفةِ أولادً
أميرِ المؤمنينَ عليهِ السّلامُ ثمانيةٌ وعشرونَ ، واللّهُ أعلمُ.
الإرشاد : ج 1 ص 355 ( ط مؤسسة آل البيت لإحياء التراث . سنة 1416 ه .
ق . بيروت لبنان (
My translation:
And from among the Shi'ah [sects] it is said that Fatimah –praises of
Allah be upon her- had a miscarriage of a male child after the Prophet
–praise of Allah be upon him and his progeny- and the Messenger of
Allah –peace be upon him-
According to this school the children of the Commander of the
faithful –peace be upon him- is twenty eight. And Allah knows best.
Dr. I. K. A. Howard's translation [p. 269]
Among the Shi'a, there are those who mention (another) Fatima, the
blessing of God be on her, who was born after the Prophet. They say
that the Apostle of God named her while he was carrying Muhsin.
According to this group there were twenty-eight children of the
Commander of the faithful, the blessing and peace of God be on him.
God knows and judges best.
By reading the Arabic, or [worse] even the English, one might think at
first that Sheikh al-Mufid does not consider Muhsin ibn Ali (a.s.) to
be one of the children of Imam Ali (a.s.), or this view is not
reliable.
Of course, what is implied by Sheikh al-Mufid can only be properly
understood by observing many factors according to the commentaries
given by many scholars. Some even believe this last paragraph was
added and does not exist in other manuscripts of Kitab al-Irshad.
I thought I was having a scientific discussion with someone whom I
assumed to be an educated Zakir, telling him how dangerous it is to
just recite things without having proper knowledge or adequate
qualifications when citing references and historical events, and how
this could result in the misleading of the general public. I told him
this was amanah. I then gave him the example of Kitab al-Irshad which
is widely misinterpreted and even translated wrongly. I said this
issue is something one must not mention in public without giving a
proper justification and must not accuse or betray the narrating of
views of any person or scholar, especially an 'alim of the calibre of
Sheikh al-Mufid.
It is sad to say that only minutes went by and then started the saga
of me denying Muhsin ibn Ali (a.s.), and this continued to lead up to
denying the martyrdom of Seyyedah Fatimah al-Zahra' (a.s.), the door,
etc.
I have nothing further to say in this regard.
Now, You be the judge.
My next email will be about the fabricated fable of Seyyidah Zainab
(a.s.) being in front of Yazid (l.a), covering her face with her hair,
and this is being recited (intentionally or unintentionally) by some
Zakirs who thrive on enticing the emotions of the audience, even if it
means coming up with such stories.
And there is more to come.
Please circulate without adding salt and pepper.
Wassalam
Sh. Zaid Alsalami
If Allah assists you, there is none that can overcome you; and if He forsakes you, then who is there that can assist you after Him? And on Allah should the believers rely (Qur'an 3:160)