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Mixed Gatherings

Postby Insaan » 18 Feb 2011, 15:58

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I just got an email that disturbed me some. Its the "Graduation Nite" of HUSAYNI Madrasah Boys Section. Apparently gents AND ladies are both invited for the program? WHY? Is this not a mixed gathering? our esteemed Marja-e Taqleed Ayatullah Sistani (May Allah prolong his life) has given several criterion to be met first before it is permissible and acceptable. Is this gathering really going to meet the requirement of being absolutely necessary to have both gents and ladies present???
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Re: Mixed Gatherings

Postby qamar » 18 Feb 2011, 22:22

In this program ladies n gents will not sit together. Ladies behind n gents will be at front

If this is objectionable wat wud u say about the real mixed gatherin @ coco beach in mahe Ramadhan that jamaat organized. Definitely madressa is doin it properly
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Re: Mixed Gatherings

Postby justme » 25 Feb 2011, 17:45

I've always wondered why are mixed gatherings not allowed in Islam?
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Re: Mixed Gatherings

Postby Muhammad Mahdi » 26 Feb 2011, 04:09

In mixed gatherings, it is difficult to maintain proper hijab
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Re: Mixed Gatherings

Postby abuali » 17 Aug 2011, 07:00

justme wrote:I've always wondered why are mixed gatherings not allowed in Islam?


The best way to know the reason is study what happens in a society where people freely mix with each other

There is a famous hadith of the aimmah which says (i am paraphrasing)

Everything that is haraam is because of harm that it has for man and everything wajib has benefit in it for man
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Re: Mixed Gatherings

Postby abuali » 28 Jul 2013, 02:38

(salam)

I sent the following question the the office of Ayatullah Sistani:
Salaam Alaykum

Jazakallah for this valuable service.

Is it permissible to hold a gathering where unmarried and married as well as engaged couples sit together on same tables to discuss issues about marriage?

If the answer to the above is no, then Is it permissible if the men and women seat on separate tables but can see each other or should we have a curtain to separate them?

Topics that will be discussed will be about marital issues.

jazakallah


As you notice, my question included details that cover a lot of the mixed gathering activities that are happening including, but not limited to, the marriage seminars and leadership development programs as well as the programs by EEC/Social Services committee as well as Africa federation meetings and more

Here is the answer I received:

بسمه تعالى

اگر خوف وقوع در گناه باشد جايز نيست.

If it is feared that they might fall into a sin, it is not permissible.

May Allah grant you success.

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Re: Mixed Gatherings

Postby Muhammad Mahdi » 28 Jul 2013, 05:46

And while we are on the subject of falling into sin, even a mislaid glance is a sin
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Re: Mixed Gatherings

Postby abuali » 01 Aug 2013, 00:41

Does that mean that if there is fear that even one sinful glance may occur during such a program, it becomes impermissible?
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Re: Mixed Gatherings

Postby Muhammad Mahdi » 01 Aug 2013, 02:36

It would be the logical conclusion, wouldn't it?
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Re: Mixed Gatherings

Postby abuali » 01 Aug 2013, 03:11

Is it possible that the 'fear of falling into sin' maybe referring to a major sin?
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Re: Mixed Gatherings

Postby Muhammad Mahdi » 02 Aug 2013, 03:58

Ask the office of Sayyid about that, perhaps mention a misplaced gaze, some hair peeking out etc etc
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Re: Mixed Gatherings

Postby abuali » 02 Aug 2013, 21:35

Have sent a follow up question.

I assume they would say 'gunaah kabirah' if they wanted to refer to major sin. However the answer just mentions 'gunah' i.e. sin
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Re: Mixed Gatherings

Postby Insaan » 05 Aug 2013, 18:00

These are photos posted on ECC FB page quite opnely and publicly. As anybody can be able to see them so I doesnt think Ia doing any fitna/fasd in this case. Is this proper hijab frndzz?

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Re: Mixed Gatherings

Postby sadika » 07 Aug 2013, 13:39

i m stil confused abt this hv always thght this is fine

but acccording to viewtopic.php?f=100&t=3149&hilit=hijab its not
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