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Postby Syed Kazim » 05 Nov 2006, 22:14

It was the battle of Khaibar, where the prophet recited nade ali!
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Postby Syed Kazim » 05 Nov 2006, 22:16

about tawassul, when P.Adam was sent on earth, he was crying as a sign of repentance, while asking for repentance, he asked through the panjatan!
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Postby abuali » 05 Nov 2006, 22:43

and the famous event of fitrus being granted back his wings through the wasilla of Imam Hussain (AS)
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Postby Syed Kazim » 05 Nov 2006, 23:07

yes...that too
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Postby Muhammad Mahdi » 07 Nov 2006, 18:26

ans the saliva of the prophet as a cure for imam Ali (as) eye infection in battle of khaibar
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Postby abuali » 07 Nov 2006, 21:21

and the time when Nabi Musa got sick and refused to be seen by doctors...and Allah informed him he shall not be cured until he takes help of the doctors and the medicine as Allah has made that wasila for cure.
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Postby kulsham » 08 Nov 2006, 14:20

Can i have a hadith or from which books these are mentioned? because my aim of making this thread is
1- i am on debate with sunni brothers
2-they dont want plain statements they want with proofs

so whatever you have posted above it will be better if you state with references.
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Postby kulsham » 08 Nov 2006, 14:29

if all of you can put of the references it will be more easy for me.

If you have...

It is so sad the Husseini madressa dont teach the difference between Bukhari books from al Kaafi books/ Khomeini books.
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Postby Muhammad Mahdi » 09 Nov 2006, 19:30

Sura maidah verse 110
sura aaraf 160
sura yusuf 93
sura nisaa 64
maidah 35
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Postby kulsham » 10 Nov 2006, 23:34

Syed Kazim wrote:It was the battle of Khaibar, where the prophet recited nade ali!

This is very interesting. Got the hadith and reference? IT will be wonderful if you search for us.
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Postby abuali » 10 Nov 2006, 23:48

Yes, I was just discussing with a brother a couple of days ago that we need to digitalize important resource books so that they can be available online.

There are soo many hadiths...and hence its an issue because not all of them are authentic...and those authentic are sometimes interpreted out of context...and sometimes some are misquoted.

The sahih books have a lot of authentic hadiths and those which are not authentic...and this is true for other hadith collections as well.

Generally the hadiths about wasila are found in both sahih and those books that the shias regard in high esteem...

Sahih books and other hadith collection are available at Al-itrah bookshop (if i am not mistaken).
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Postby Syed Kazim » 11 Nov 2006, 00:05

ill try n get u the reference, altho the "story" is correct



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Postby kulsham » 11 Nov 2006, 00:13

hasin wrote:Yes, I was just discussing with a brother a couple of days ago that we need to digitalize important resource books so that they can be available online.

There are soo many hadiths...and hence its an issue because not all of them are authentic...and those authentic are sometimes interpreted out of context...and sometimes some are misquoted.

The sahih books have a lot of authentic hadiths and those which are not authentic...and this is true for other hadith collections as well.

Generally the hadiths about wasila are found in both sahih and those books that the shias regard in high esteem...

Sahih books and other hadith collection are available at Al-itrah bookshop (if i am not mistaken).


Where did you study all this?
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Postby kulsham » 11 Nov 2006, 00:19

Syed Kazim wrote:ill try n get u the reference, altho the "story" is correct



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it will be wonderful. Really wonderful indeed.
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Postby abuali » 11 Nov 2006, 00:20

I have not studied per se...

Over the past few years I have come across different hadiths from different sources....some of which are so fake that a child with the right faith can tell its not authentic...and others so sinister that it would be hard to prove its inauthenticity.

Among all these lie the authentic hadeeths...the ones from which we need to learn.

Scholars spend a lot of time researching into the chain of narrations of these hadeeths in order to fairly conclude its authenticity

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